These watches were in a group of several I purchased at an estate sale & although, exact age is unknown, I've been able to date them 1980/90's from the serial numbers on the back. Neither are running nor have they been tested...they may just need new batteries but extent of repair is not known (cosmetically they're in excellent condition). Both have been previously worn & being sold as they were found. End to end, including the buckle, measure 7.75" long...both straps are marked made in Canada. I think the strap of the Pulsar (rectangle face) is a replacement as one half of it is put on upside-down. Pulsar was acquired by Seiko in 1979 & serial number on back of case is 360517 & another number Y434-5030 with the letters RO in a square box. Serial number of the one with black face is 533215 followed by the numbers 7321-5339 & the numbers RO in a square box. ***NOTE*** pick up only, NO delivery, will ship (YOUR COST)! be sure to check my other ads for a huge assortment of fashion accessories & more watches